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Is this an academic norm?

Is this an academic norm? Topic: How to write a business letter high school
April 22, 2019 / By Nogah
Question: is it possible for someone who normally does not do good academically to be extremely better than the bright students in the longrun? Last year there was a woman in my Animal Physiology class who said she tends to not do well in tests. But she ended up acing the class to the point where she doesn't need to take the final because she got the highest A in the last midterm before the final. The thing is, she said that was the only class she had. Then it turns out i heard there were other students in the class that are normally bright but could not handle our teacher's questions due to them being tricky. But this woman who says she's not that good with school actually did better than everyone given that she has no other course, despite the teacher's hardness on tests. Another thing, my teacher actually lectured in a pace that was too fast for students, he wrote nothing down, but just talked and talked all the way using images, you had to make your own notes based on what he said, but the downfall is that he talked fast and people can easily be left behind. This lady even said she tends to have attention problems. I think i do too and was hard for me to keep up with the teacher, and it turns out she was able to absorb all info the teacher gave despite her attention problem. So given that she has short attention span, claims not to do good in tests, but did better than those who normally do great in school, it makes me wonder, is there a psychological factor than enables someone to do better than most even if they normally don't do well after a long time span that they study and practice?
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Kris Kris | 6 days ago
Well, sure that is possible, but anything is. Ultimately though, common sense informs that if someone is "bright" or more adept at any skill than another, and they plan on rising as high as they can, then by definition their efforts will lead them to a place farther in the long run because their efforts will just be more effective. There are external effects that matter of course (e.g. how to actually ascend in the real world depends on interpersonal abililties, etc.), but in all this is how the world works. Also, it sounds like you believe this person word-for-word. If she only has one class, then of course she has a huge opportunity to do better than everyone else. Not everything people say about their abilities is true though. I flat out lie when people start complimenting me or ask me how i am at a certain subject. This is a kind of humility that is more common in Asia. Some of us never speak the truth about our capabilities for reasons of a culturally different brand of humility (at least in real life, not online). I did well on a test? No, i was just lucky. I am "bright"? No, i am actually an idiot. "I am a bad test taker," etc. It might sound strange to respond like this, but it is just something you should keep in mind that people do. I do find it hilarious to say this in America though, I am American, born and raised, I just picked this up when i lived in Japan and China for awhile a few years ago. It is funny though, to say this to Americans who do not get that you are just saying that, and to see them obviously believe that you are the most moronic person on this planet...just because you, yourself, say you are lol. I am a PhD student in nuclear engineering, honestly many times i do get the high scores on exams in my classes, but almost none of my friends even know that (nor do my parents). Not because I deny it, because I never bring it up, and no one else does. Who cares, right? I often tell people i am an idiot, but that does not mean i believe it. What i mean is, do not believe everything your friend is saying down to the letter. Some people just communicate like this. Further, she might actually not even be telling you an entirely accurate story (exaggerration/lies). Answering your idea about is there some psychological business that enables someone to do better than othes: not really. by the way, everyone says they are "not good at taking tests," and in all, and to be frank, your friend is just giving you bs lol.
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Kris Originally Answered: Families, Egyptian culture, and oldest sons.what is the norm?
Its very normal with older sons and the only son Ahlan AMJ, I know this will cover a lot of issues- some relevant to you and some not- but your question has some stars from some people that maybe need to read this to help them having a successful married life isa. I will be direct and non academic on this so it is clearly understood to those that read it. What you have described is very typically a ‘clash of cultures’ – However horrible this is to say you would most likely have problems in this respect from the females in the family rather than the males. Males in the family will only intervene on things after the nagging of a female to intervene- if this happens in any case- you know then that the female aka the mother is too emotionally upset to get her point through, so the male has intervened aka the father in law to help her out. Egyptian mothers like men to be very strong minded with the female “real man” the only one he is not supposed to be strong minded with is his mother and if he ever is- he would turn it into a joke in the end as the women aka the mother would forgive all his ills. For a son could look like a monkey but to the mother he is as beautiful as a deer. You know Egyptian families are very close and actual physical private space is an issue at times and it does take years to assert and find boundaries that you as a couple can stick to. Now Im sorry to say this but very very rarely does this come from Egyptian men in these cases- assertiveness comes through the women aka the wife. Now the man in this is naturally not assertive- respect is all the mother and the older the mother gets the more power that she has in her home and with her children- yes they maybe adults but they are always and will always be very close to her breast. I give you an example- in the west- a mother feels tired she has many tasks and seeks a solution to free her arms from her baby- she places in a baby rocker/gym/seat- most not all but most Egyptian women would hold the baby and find any way to multi task the situation. Babies and parents stay very close often sleeping communally and most Egypt women breastfeed. All of this is later paid back to the mother in this life and the next in form of duty, love, loyalty and respect. Althought these days you could find some young people that speak about family problems to others, most things are kept in the family. Its not unheard of to have family bank accounts. The mother to ask the married son about the financial affairs of his home. The mother doesn’t always mean to over step a boundry – she maybe just doesn’t see that there is a boundry- now this is why is far surpassed in terms of class- any one that says it’s a class issue is wrong- the lower classes share all that they have because they have so little that together, they cope, the middle class plan and invest together as families, in education, in helping other family members to get into property and jobs. The higher class protect the status with their lives – they keep money in the family by exerting so much control over marriages both the pre planning and the actual marriage (not unique to Egyptian society- it happens in all societies- all the royals are pre arranged/selected/approved by a very very few ). Of course you are right in Islam – you shouldn’t be required to leave your home for so much – it is your right and highly recommended in the early years of married life that you have your own place. Yet we are not talking Islam as Islam here- we are talking the Egyptian version of Islam with some parts that are cultural. What I highly suggest you do from both experience and research is this: Be assertive- re- read what being assertive is- because you need to get it right and not only do you need to get it right for the sake of yourself- your hubby- family harmony but you need to get it right the Egyptian way. Take the examples of classic Egyptian women- you know the kind, the gentle, warm and sharing, the ones the excel warmth to you. Find ones out side of your family and friends of your family that are like this- ones that are so far away from your family- that you can talk to about these things- because its always going to be an issue- always – and new situations will come up- where you will think WHAT!! How do I deal with this- firstly you learn from Egyptian women and you learn about Egyptian women- tenderness always wins- smile even if your crying inside always wins. Egyptian society has a lot of pressures socially, economically and politically so when people see a warm and smiling face- that is light with tender laughter- this cures a lot of things. Never share your problems about the family in public or show anger or upset in public- Egyptian women have levels of power and what is socially acceptable to show and be done the older they get- now before Children – you are you- then you would become the mother of- then it starts be a little lighter in many ways- in a family gathering –keep smiling- Egyptian society likes to gossip – its not a capitalist society- people have more time to discuss- what you were wearing, what have you bought lately, where are you travelling, what did you do- it really shocks some Egyptians to still to see affection between husband and wife for example- I would never in my life kiss my husband on the cheek in front of my father in law. My husband sometimes is affectionate to me in front of my mother in law or “or married and only married sister in laws” and if I see my husband coming to be affectionate- I make a joke and say to him in a small laughter- go away- I had two children let me rest, so it is light and makes a little laughter but keeps a line of respect but my husband knows what that means- and it is done in a very tender and socially respectful way- I never and I never will – let down- what we call guard’ with in laws- why because – respectfulness can sometimes means relaxed and different things mean different things in different cultures- say for example- my mother in law is carrying dishes to the kitchen- we will play mini- tug of war over who gets to take them to the kitchen and to clean them up- I must win for I am younger and respect her age and her caring that she was willing to do it. Never would I allow her to do it or I would be doing it with her if there was a lot of dishes (have you noticed men gather in one place and women are often in the kitchen). There are two ways to see things- its like in the west- many men are so confused- what should they do- should they open the door for a women or not- and the dynamics between males and females are very confused. Egyptian men would never – never- ever choose the wife over the family- the mother in law- if there is an issue of conflict they will avoid it, in the early years of marriage they may challenge small things- but never after a few years will they ever particularly after children- never will Egyptian men challenge his mother on something to do with you in front of you. A true story – when I first got married and was staying in Egypt- I heard of a man who couldn’t cope with the mother in law and the daughter in law so instead he jumped off the balcony and killed himself- the impact of these issues on the husband is too great- he has not been taught how to be assertive with his mother- its not normal to be taught this in Egyptian society. So you have to do it- with smiles- For example if there is any area of conflict- say the way you would be raising your children- and for sure there will be- ive not heard of a relationship where there has not been- if you have to step in and be assertive- that’s what you must do. Egyptians are very verbally emotional and to cope living with this- you have to be sharp and you have to know some Arabic words that become your own trade mark- for what you are saying- you are serious but also in a gentle way. If you challenged his mother on something with one of your children for example- then what you do is- give a few moments for her to think about what you have said- at first she may be offended- then a minute later think why is she saying this- its your job to explain it – but when your explaining- hold a hand- put your hand on her arm in a gentle way – look and kiss her nicely- smile through what you are saying- explain that its something important for the welfare of your child because of this and that- but never- or at least life would be easier that you don’t start judging Egyptian parenting or Egyptian marriages, relationships, society, don’t pick fault- at all- just find reasons, read , read and try to understand what’s behind this and that. Also be patient – be so patient- its two different mind sets and for sure everyone wants to spend time with hubby. Now be clear you are the daughter in law- we all are- we are not the daughters- so don’t be upset – when you discover that- after years and years of marriage you are still excluded from secret talks and sniggering- its not always about you or about you personally- its about the fact that Blood is always thicker than water, relationships were brought about through something no matter how good your relationship is- something that could never be. That is why the attention on grandchildren is so great- the need to have them, have them quickly, have them the best- keep the bad eyes away from them but at the same time- show society look at my son look what god gifted him with. Its also apart of showing and feeling family security- for if the mother in law has control over you- she has control over her family- you are now a non- blood apart of that family unit. Inhertence is also a major factor- this is why lots of non Egyptian women convert to Islam on paper only for the sake of protection by law of the rights of the family that the couple build together- Lots are already converts - but many who have or live in Egypt do this for that reason. Things take time, patience, communication, sometimes- holding things to yourself away from hubby that you will burst- let him go to his mothers as often as he wishes-if he is not assertive to say no he cant for another reason- then you need to make life happen that you have a reason, children, tired, work, classes- (never other people as no one should appear to be a priority over the family unit)- you need to get yourself busy with reasons not to spend too much time- as too much time leads always to conflict, try to let all the little things go, just say they don’t matter, pray and ask god to give patience, breath before answering back and never make the mother feel that shes not a cat over her kitten for she will turn into a rather eager lioness and it will be a battle that you would lose – unless you moved very far physically away and kept your husband busy as to distract him from being so needed’ by his mother, never not show you care- don’t forget birthday and send things in the post – no matter where you live- buy her gifts when you visit her- cook with her- just bond for the husband and your childrens sake and for the fact that she is his mother – the one that came first and you- imagine how you might be with your own son…and think and know your love is different to her love- you also have something that she can never give him but he will always emotionally need her- even if- that’s tiring and your secrets between you two end up being passed a long…remember you are the assertive one because you have to be to keep your sanity and the relationship together ..Good luck to the ladies that have read it if your not assertive but gentle- it will build and boil and damage you. xxxx
Kris Originally Answered: Families, Egyptian culture, and oldest sons.what is the norm?
Unfortunately I've experienced it. Demands put on my hubby + I + our kids were not proportional at all. His family specifically told him he is paying too much attention to us, so he did what a real man would and should do + let them know what we meant to him and how could they expect us to be treated that way? they don't expect their egyptian born daughters to be treated the way they wanted him to treat his amer. wife/children. did not speak to his family for quite a few mos. the relationship is still chilly.
Kris Originally Answered: Families, Egyptian culture, and oldest sons.what is the norm?
this happened a long time ago. the eldest son WAS responsible for the family and had to give attention to it . NOW , the family doesnt demand /expect this from the son. the son marries and leads his own family life in the way he chooses . his wife and children occupy most of his time . i say most , bec a son or a daughter who is married and independent pay attention to their mother , father , brothers , and sisters . it is a religious and social duty . this duty is marginal . Islam orders family members to communicate , by phone , visit , asking about the well being of the other members . this can take minutes , but it is highly valued . the wife / husband observe this obligation with joy , joy of pleasing God .

Irvin Irvin
Do not worry,it will turn out even stevens in the long run.As long as you re determined and disciplined,you are bound to succeed,whatever be the psychological factors.
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Irvin Originally Answered: What happens after Academic Probation?
One of three things happens after a semester on academic probation: 1. You meet the requirements to be returned to the same standing as most other students. 2. You do not meet the requirements to be returned to the same standing as most other students, but you do meet lesser standards for remaining enrolled on academic probation. Not all colleges offer this option. 3. You are dismissed from school. If you are dismissed from school, one of three things happens: 1. You appeal the decision to dismiss you and win, and you are allowed to enroll in the next semester, although still on academic probation. 2. You appeal the decision and lose. 3. You don't appeal the decision. If you either don't win your appeal or don't appeal at all, you will be faced with one of three situations: 1. After a certain period of time (you may be required to do something specific while you are away), you are automatically permitted to enroll again. 2. After a certain period of time (you may be required to do something specific while you are away), you are allowed to apply to enroll again, but you are not guaranteed readmission. 3. You are told you may not return no matter what. If you don't return to your original school, either because they don't let you or because you choose not to, you will have basically three options: 1. You enroll in another school, probably a community college (with the intent of getting a few semesters of good grades and transferring). 2. You decide college is not for you, at least for the moment, and work on getting a job that has the potential for you to advance into a career you enjoy. 3. You decide on a mixed approach, such as attending community college part-time and working part-time. As far as your test anxiety, I would suggest that you look into counseling. It's possible that there are some skills a good psychologist or other counselor could teach you that would go a long way toward mitigating your anxiety. It's also possible that you would end up diagnosed with a disabling anxiety disorder and that if/when you return to school you would be able to take documentation of that disorder to the disability services office and receive accommodations that would give you a better chance to show what you know. Accommodations are not retroactive and you'd still be on academic probation, but if you were to get documentation of a disability now, it's possible that you could use that in an appeal. And even if you weren't able to return to school with new documentation of a disabling condition, you would be able to use the fact that you were not diagnosed and not receiving accommodations in a future application to a different college: it would help you explain your poor performance at your first school (and, since you will be required to provide your transcript from this school when you apply to another 4-year college or university, if not when you apply to community college, you will be expected to explain what happened). In even the worst-case scenario, flunking out won't define you. There are people who fail out of college on their first attempt, and end up -- either right away or after a few years -- being successful at the same college or a different one. Some people just aren't ready for college when they are 17, 18, or 19. Other people, like you, have a problem that interferes with their ability to do well, and they become successful after they figure out how to deal with that problem. I realize it will be upsetting if you are required to leave school, but I hope you'll recognize that it's a temporary, not a permanent, setback. Good luck.
Irvin Originally Answered: What happens after Academic Probation?
Academic Probation all depends on the college you are at, i have seen a college have probation as short as 1 month, and others as a full semester. As long as you are passing (with a C) usually they do not kick you out of college. I suggest maybe taking fewer classes? Also if you are a freshman, they make those courses hard because they want to get the students out of the school that don't deserve to be there. Work as hard as you can and get though it, then the rest of the years will seem easier.

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