JW's, one of your number maintains that Mary was one of Christ's chosen disciples, do you agree?
Topic: Plural thesis
July 18, 2019 / By Aiyana Question:
A well known JW on here recently asked a question where he said that when Christ was talking to Mary alone in the tomb He was addressing [In his words] "His disciples (Plural)" [John 20:17]. When I pointed out his error, that Mary was not one or more than one of His disciples, that there are a clearly named 12 disciples in the bible and Mary is not included in that list, he continues to tell me that Mary was one of Christ's disciples (Not "Christ's disciples" (Plural)) because, in his words,
Quote.. "Mary was not an apostle of Jesus. She was a disciple of Jesus.
When Jesus died there were more than 11 disciples of Jesus. Anybody who followed Jesus was his disciple. Mary followed Jesus." Quote.
So again my question how many disciples of Christ are named in the bible, are any of them called Mary?
Matthew 10:1 So he summoned his 12 disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits,+ in order to expel these and to cure every sort of disease and every sort of infirmity. (NWT)
I see the NWT tells me it was 12 disciples and not 12 apostles that Christ called!
According to Strong, an apostle is someone sent and a disciple is someone being taught.
From G649; a delegate; specifically an ambassador of the Gospel; officially a commissioner of Christ (“apostle”), (with miraculous powers): - apostle, messenger, he that is sent.
From G3129; a learner, that is, pupil: - disciple.
Was Mary one of Christ's disciples?
@Uncle Thesis, so you are saying that your version of the bible at Matthew 10:1 is wrong in saying there were only 12 disciples? Looks like another re-translation is required to again match your teachings!
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Tranter | 1 day ago
Gosh this is an interesting question and has got me thinking! I read Luke 10 where Jesus sends out the 70 and they return in v17 calling Him "Lord". Jesus says to them to "rejoice...that their names are written in the book of life"!
It does seem there were many disciples. But the 12 were the ones "chosen" by Jesus to follow Him. I guess others such as Mary perhaps were called followers? We read though in Acts 1 that the 12 were called "the apostles whom He had chosen" yet in the upper room there was 120 disciples and Mary and some other women were named even though Peters address was to the "men and brethren"....Yet even still they drew lots to replace Judas with Matthias as one of 12 who by this time were officially called "apostles" Acts1:26
Furthermore when Mary found the empty tomb she asked "Where have they taken my Lord?"
This question remains for me as food for thought and there likely is no right or wrong answer! Mary clearly loved and followed Jesus x
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This all seems to be a tempest in a teapot.
Reminds me of what 1 Timothy 6:4 says about 'debates about words.'
All Christ's followers were called disciples, since (as you say) a disciple is someone being taught.
12 of those disciples were chosen to be apostles.
Therefore, those 12 were disciples AND apostles.
Mary was not one of those 12 apostles.
However, she was taught by Jesus .....ergo: disciple.
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Mary was a disciple of Jesus but was not one of the 12 apostles he selected at the beginning of his ministry.Those were all men.
She was included as a disciple among the 120 disciples who were anointed by holy spirit at Pentecost.
King James Version (KJV)
And when they were come in, they went up into an upper room, where abode both Peter, and James, and John, and Andrew, Philip, and Thomas, Bartholomew, and Matthew, James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon Zelotes, and Judas the brother of James.
These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and MARY the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.
And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Anyone who followed Jesus and obeyed his teachings could be called a disciple.
King James Version (KJV)
And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
Notice that some of his followers ( disciples ) did not like what Jesus said and refused to walk with him again.
King James Version (KJV)
Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Anyone can be a disciple of Jesus . He commanded his followers to go and make more disciples after he went back to heaven.
That is what Jehovah's Witnesses are doing-- making disciples, teaching them all the things Jesus commanded and baptizing them.
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