Topic: Summarize research article
May 26, 2019 / By Andreana Question:
I was just reading about Marie Antoniette, historical fiction but this author had a lot of facts that are spot on. The author said that the phrase attributed to her, Let them eat cake, was an old phrase attributed to two queens before Marie. Does anyone know anything about this or at least a source for me to do more research. I'm curious now.
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Weston | 9 days ago
Here are several articles about Marie-Antoinette and the "let them eat cake" comment:
This one is my favorite!
From your question I am assuming that the links are all you need; so I am not summarizing the articles or anything--but I will say all back up what the author claimed in the book your are reading!
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Marie Antoinette's full name was Maria Antonia Josepha Johanna von Habsburg-Lothringen. She was born on November 2, 1755, and was executed on October 16, 1793 at the age of 38. Marie Antoinette made many changes in the customs practiced at court, with the approval of the king.
Some changes, such as the abolition of segregated dining spaces. More importantly was the abandonment of heavy make-up and the popular wide-hooped panniers for a more simple female look. She also began to participate in amateur plays and musicals, starting in 1780, in a theatre built for her and other courtiers who wished to indulge in the delights of acting and singing.
Marie Antoinette's temperament was more suited to her children, whose education and upbringing she personally directed. This was against the traditions of Versailles, where the queen usually had little say over the Enfants de France, as the royal children were called, and they were instead handed over to various courtiers who fought over the privilege.
Antonia Fraser, in her book “Marie Antoinette – The Journey” says
‘This story was first told about the Spanish Princess [Marie Therese] who married Louis XIV a hundred years before the arrival of Marie Antoinette in France; it continued to be repeated about a series of other Princesses throughout the eighteenth century. As a handy journalistic cliché, it may never die. Yet, not only was the story wrongly ascribed to Marie Antoinette in the first place, but such ignorant behaviour would have been quite out of character.’
‘[The words] first appear in Jean-Jacques Rousseau's Confessions, his putative autobiographical work (completed in 1769, when Marie Antoinette was 13). “Finally I recalled the last resort of a great princess who was told that the peasants had no bread, and who responded: "Let them eat brioche."
Rousseau does not name the "great princess" and there is speculation that he invented the anecdote, which has no other sources.”
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Marie Antoinette was basically a scape goat for the France's people ... she was forced into a marriage she didn't want (as were most women of that time) to a husband who really was very indifferent to the idea of marriage and children (Louis Augustus). Because her husband refused to Consummate the marriage for the first 3 or 4 years of their life together her position was always being threatened, and along with that position her head was always threatened.
Knowing that she probably would end up dead Marie Antoinette gave up on the etiquette of the day, became an outspoken woman, partied, and openly flirted with English navel officer. To top it all up she was extremely close to a woman named Yolonde de Polastron, who was considered to be somewhat of a golddigger and liked to flash her husband's wealth. This caused people to get the idea that Marie Antoinette felt the same way about her husband's wealth. It's even been suggested that Marie and Yolonde had a somewhat more sinister relationship, if you get my drift.
Although it is very unlikely that she said "Let them eat cake", it's not altogether impossible that she said something very similar to this. Back in her time cake simply meant bread or a pastry, something that she had plenty of and most aristocrats had plenty of. She probably never saw just how bad the people were suffering because her husband and mother-in-law kept her pretty much closed up inside of the castles for the majority of her marriage (especially after the marriage was finally consummated and she gave birth to her two children).
Now, the young King was widely loved but the people were suffering and needed someone to blame. Here is this lady, from another country, who many considered to be some what of a partying harlot. For the majority of the time she was in France she dressed richely, partied openly, and was defient to the Queen and King. Of course when she became Queen herself she started dressing down as she discovered just how badly the people had it and all, but her husband was still indifferent to the country and didn't try to fix anything.
The people threw a riot, burnt down the caste. Marie Antoinette and her children and husband escaped but were caught. Marie Antoinette was labelled a traiter and blamed for the countries deficit (supposedly this one woman had wasted every dime France had in it's treasury) and she was beheaded.
If you really want to watch a good movie that is based on her life you should check out the 2006 film starring Kristin Dunst called Marie Antoinette. It is extremely accurate and an excellent portrayal of the Queen.
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It is quite true that Marie Antoinette never said 'let them eat cake.'
In fact, Marie Antoinette was not nearly as unconcerned about the plight of the poor as she is often portrayed as being. She and Louis XVI both gave generously to the poor in times of hardship - in the hard winter of 1784 for instance, she gave nearly a million francs out of her personal allowance to the poor of Versailles. And she was the only member of the court who, when out hunting, would never ride or drive across a peasant's field of wheat, so she was quite well aware of the value of bread.
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You can find a brief explanation in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake . You can also read a bit more here: http://urbanlegends.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=urbanlegends&cdn=newsissues&tm=45&gps=98_25_1020_595&f=20&tt=2&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/227600.html
It is interesting to read the biographies of people of the monarchy. Stefan Zweig is a good choice, and if yoy like not so close to the truth stories you can go with Jean Plaidy, who writes also under the name of Victoria Holt.
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If you read some independent sources you will find that she was one of the most propagandized persons in history. Her only "crime" was being Queen of France during the French Revolution. And, yes, she wasn't the one that said that phrase...
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If you read "Marie Antoinette: The Journey" by Antonia Fraser, there is plenty of information gleaned from obviously extensive research.
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Yes that is true. She never said it. She probably didnt know enough about the peasants to know they had access to cake.
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Originally Answered: Who was more interesting: Louis XVI or Marie Antoinette?
Louis XVI was a poor ruler who never wanted to rule, as he ws put on the throne when he was 6 years old. Although he had good intentions, he drove the country into debt from spending on wars (American Revolution) and on luxuries (Palace of Versailles). He also spent most of his time with his friends and he loved to hunt.
Marie Antoinette was the daughter of Austrian queen Maria Theresa. She was described as being beautiful and fair. However, she helped bring France into deeper debt by spending frivolously and with regard to anything. She would even buy about two new dresses a week.
I would probably do Louis XVI, but the choice is yours.