Atheists, do you respect me at all?
Topic: How to write a fairy book
June 20, 2019 / By Mickey Question:
This question is only for atheists, I don't really need any other answers.
I am a Christian. I believe that the Bible is true, certainly not all literal, but true nonetheless (FYI, I am an evolutionary theist, so don't bring that up). I won't say anything more about my beliefs.
As an atheist, do you respect me as a rational human being knowing that I am a Christian? I will say that I'm not a moron. I believe that Christianity is reasonable. I think it's reasonable to look at the universe and conclude that something supernatural created it. I think it's reasonable to say that miracles can happen due to the aforementioned supernatural being. I think that it's reasonable to say that Jesus was a real person who performed miracles, was killed, and was raised from the dead. I would say that there are many other Christians like this, even though it seems like most atheists (at least on the internet) assume that Christian belief is based in blind faith which shuns knowledge. I was raised as a Christian, but I was uncomfortable with many of my beliefs, and guess what? I actually did some research, and found that they were reasonable! Yet most questions and responses to questions I see written by atheists are blatantly disrespectful, regarding religion as fairytales.
I don't mean to accuse atheists of being jerks, but I do want to ask if everyone, as an atheist, even finds it possible to give Christians the benefit of the doubt and assume that they are rational until individually proven otherwise. It is very frustrating for me to have to read posts by people who clearly have much less respect for me than I have for them.
Whew, a lot of responses in only a few seconds. I just want to make it clear to all atheists, I generally respect you guys, there are some exceptions, but these are usually the loud-mouthed ones that go around publishing books calling me delusional. I just wanted to make sure that everyone realizes how frustrating it is when people use terms like delusion or fairy tale to describe my beliefs. The term myths is much less inflammatory, though I respectfully disagree with its use, and you can simply think that I'm wrong and state your argument using logic and not put-downs, although I've looked at the arguments already, so it won't change my mind. It just bothers me when people respond to religious questions that don't concern them just so that they can put down my beliefs, or when people respond in a way that is deliberately rude. Thanks for the responses guys.
Best Answers: Atheists, do you respect me at all?
Lexia | 2 days ago
"I think it's reasonable to look at the universe and conclude that something supernatural created it."
I find nothing about that belief either reasonable nor respectable. In fact, I find in in confluence with a complete lack of understanding about the universe.
That doesn't mean I don't respect *you*. You may very well be a good, decent human being. You're simply a good, decent human being who happens to be completely ignorant regarding a great many things.
I can respect certain things about your character without respecting your intellect, or lack thereof.
"(FYI, I am an evolutionary theist, so don't bring that up)"
Well, see, there you go. You happen to be more intelligent than a significant percent of your brethren.
Respect isn't an all-or-nothing thing. And don't mistake respect for liking. There are theists, even Creationists, that I like, because they're good people. Some of the best people in this world are dumb as a post.
Addendum: "I just wanted to make sure that everyone realizes how frustrating it is when people use terms like delusion or fairy tale to describe my beliefs."
If I told you that I believed in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny, would you call me a delusional person who believes in fairy tales?
Be honest, now. I think you would (and you would have good reason to). Try to look at things from our perspective.
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Originally Answered: When will people respect the jonas brothers? they are the best?
since you seem to like to ask the same tired question,then i'll give you my same tired answer:
i'm going to turn your question on its head,instead of wasting my time trying to educate you on why they're not the best.now i will say that the number of cd's sold has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of music.yeah so the jonas brothers have sold a ton of albums,concert tickets,and merchandise.so what!that doesn't make them the best band in the world,it just means that they're popular and nothing more and with the trends in music changing as fast as they do,its very easy to be here today and gone tomorrow.
heck,even the beatles weren't expecting their popularity to last forever,john lennon said when he was asked in 1963:"yeah you can be big headed and say 'we're going to last 10 years.',but as soon as you've said last you think 'you know we'll be lucky to last 3 months.' "
let me put it in another way:why are the jonas's better than established legends like the beatles,pink floyd,and led zep?have they done anything to revolutionize music as we know it?have they changed the way music was done in the recording studio?have they made an impact on our culture that will be felt for years,even decades to come?have they revolutionized the way songs are written?did they change the producer/artist relationship in the recording studio?have they gone against the grain and did things their own way instead of just following the rules?have they influenced other bands to sound like them or to go out acquire the same equipment they use?have they made music that will prove to not only transcend generations,but the test of time as well?have they changed the way the industry does business?have they had music companies manufacture instruments and equipment specifically for them or inspire music companies to make instruments or equipment?
do you know why acts like the beatles,the rolling stones,the who,led zeppelin,the beach boys,madonna,metallica,michael jackson,elvis presley and so many others are among the best?
because didn't just play the game,like the jonas brothers and their disney pop bretheren seem to,they changed the rules of the game.they revolutionized music as we know it,they made an impact on our culture that is still being felt even now.they've made music that spans generations and has stood the test of time.some of these acts changed the artist producer relationship forever,they changed how the music industry does business.they all went against the grain and did things their own way as opposed to following convention and playing it safe.all or most of these acts changed the way music was made in a recording studio and they also revolutionized the way songs were written.
i leave you with this last thought:if you can show me or prove to me why are the jonas brothers are better than all the established legends that you mentioned,if you can name or show me something that the jonas brothers have done for music outside of selling a ton of albums,concert tickets and merchandise,if you can show or tell me how the jonas brothers have revolutionized music and how they will be able to sustain their popularity for decades to come,then i will burn all my beatles cd's,t-shirts,movies,and replace them all with jonas brothers stuff.
a few last parting shots:
a few words of wisdom,
a pretty face may last a year or two
but pretty soon they'll see what you can do
the sound you make is muzak to my ears
next a song that seems to make more sense to day than it did when it first came out:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk8HMCrKV...
finally:the jonas brothers here today,LFO tomorrow
yes i respect you. as i see it there is no difference between an atheist and a christian besides from that cristians beliving in jesus, god and so on. i have both atheists and christian frends that are very good peopel. the only thing that i diffret betwen them is that if the belive in god or not.
if your an atheist; we belive the same. if your a christian; i respekt your opinion, even though I do not agre with it
P.S sry for not reading the whole text XD
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Sure, I respect you. I sure as hell don't respect your beliefs though. I think that Christianity is a fairytale and none of it makes any damn sense. I'm not giving Christians the benefit of the doubt because I don't believe in magic. Sorry that you couldn't change the way I think *eyeroll*.
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I respect you as a person. i have no problem with religious people, what I have a problem with is religion and religious people controlling our lives.
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disagreeing w you is not being "disrespectful"
i think the stories in the bible are myths...that doesnt mean i disrespect you personally ..... but i will admit that i DO NOT respect church leaders (more often because of their political interference)
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Originally Answered: Why doesnt my little sister show me respect?
Because you're her older sister. I certainly had no respect for any of my older sisters, and some of them were more than 10 years my senior. They weren't my mom. I resented the fact that they were given more freedoms and more responsibilities than I was (of course, my parents had reasons for not giving an 11 year old the same responsibilities as a 19 year old, but I didn't care.) I often could see all the mistakes they were making and would roll my eyes and think "Now how come they're stupid enough not to do their homework, even I know better than that" and that didn't help my opinions of them either.
It's the age. It's the fact that she has no reason to respect you (your age is not a good reason to respect you, that's a good reason to resent you. I mean, in her eyes, you're as irresponsible as she is, you're just a little older, she should have the same freedom, being judged because of your age isn't fair... pointing out from HER point of view, not saying it's right btw.) And if you start pulling away from her, she'll only resent you more.
The whole "older siblings don't talk to younger siblings" is a crock by the way. The older the bro or sis is, the more they talk to the younger sis. It's the ones who are closer in age from my point of view that tend to push to separate more. She's more likely trying to say you don't act older because "you act like me, so it's not fair you get treated like you're more mature, cuz you're the same as me." It's just... the mentality I remember having the most growing up.
Hope this helped to give a bit more perspective. It may or may not be what she's thinking, but to me that's how I thought at that age. You don't need to make her recognize that you're the older sibling, or force her to respect you. The fact is... she doesn't HAVE to respect you, you're not her mom. In a year, you'll be driving, that'll be enough. She treats you nice, or you don't drive her places, simple as that. You can do that more now too. Go to the mall, offer to let her come if she's nice, if she's not then don't take her next time. Aim for the respect you treat another friend, not the respect you give someone older than you.